smallblocksn95 Posted May 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 I've intentionally not done anything to the 302 for almost 3 years because I knew I wanted to 351 swap it. The car isn't my Dailey anymore so it sitting isn't a huge deal. I understand what you guys are saying, honestly I do, but I want it in this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallblocksn95 Posted May 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 a local guy is trying to talk me into theseI HAVE A SET OF TRICK FLOW R SERIES HEADS THEY HAVE BEEN PORTED INT. PORT VOL. 220CC,1.900INST HT 200LBS K-MOTION SPRINGS FOR ROLLER MOTOR,65CC CHAMBERS,2.05 INTAKE VALVE DIA.,1.600 EX. VALVE 11/32 STEMS,PC SEALS,ALSO THEY ARE O-RINGED.said hed sell them for 1550 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64bit_Tuning Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 a local guy is trying to talk me into theseI HAVE A SET OF TRICK FLOW R SERIES HEADS THEY HAVE BEEN PORTED INT. PORT VOL. 220CC,1.900INST HT 200LBS K-MOTION SPRINGS FOR ROLLER MOTOR,65CC CHAMBERS,2.05 INTAKE VALVE DIA.,1.600 EX. VALVE 11/32 STEMS,PC SEALS,ALSO THEY ARE O-RINGED.said hed sell them for 1550Tell him that you want them inspected by a local machine shop on his dime, or you aren't interested.I personally won't ever buy used heads again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallblocksn95 Posted May 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 theyre still wrapped from the machine shop keith...... never installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom351R Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Those would be nice heads on a 351 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 a local guy is trying to talk me into theseI HAVE A SET OF TRICK FLOW R SERIES HEADS THEY HAVE BEEN PORTED INT. PORT VOL. 220CC,1.900INST HT 200LBS K-MOTION SPRINGS FOR ROLLER MOTOR,65CC CHAMBERS,2.05 INTAKE VALVE DIA.,1.600 EX. VALVE 11/32 STEMS,PC SEALS,ALSO THEY ARE O-RINGED.said hed sell them for 1550Pardon my ignorance but what oringed? That's in the head gasket correct? It gets machined in the heads and on the block then your head gaskets would have an oring formed into them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64bit_Tuning Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Pardon my ignorance but what oringed? That's in the head gasket correct? It gets machined in the heads and on the block then your head gaskets would have an oring formed into them?A ring is cut into the face of the head (or block) and a wire is inserted into the groove. From my understanding, it helps keep the gasket from being "blown out" under extreme stress. A regualr street car doesnt require it to be done, and if you have heads that are o-ringed, you CAN run a normal gasket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Gotcha, okay I thought it was something along those lines. thanks keith! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallblocksn95 Posted May 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 He's working with me on purchasing them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottydsntknow Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) Just be really careful, find out who did the porting, call that place and talk to anyone else you can who has used them. I've bought used heads before with good results but they were unmodified and obviously low mileage. But yes agree on buying local if you can and telling the seller he needs a clean bill of health on the heads before you are going to give him money.As far as them being wrapped from the machine shop, that does not exactly mean anything. I once had a set of heads done by a guy who was supposed to be great and... yeah I will kick that dude square in the testicles if I ever meet him IRL. He still owes me a $1k refund for shit heads. Edited May 21, 2013 by scottydsntknow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64bit_Tuning Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Just be really careful, find out who did the porting, call that place and talk to anyone else you can who has used them. I've bought used heads before with good results but they were unmodified and obviously low mileage. But yes agree on buying local if you can and telling the seller he needs a clean bill of health on the heads before you are going to give him money.As far as them being wrapped from the machine shop, that does not exactly mean anything. I once had a set of heads done by a guy who was supposed to be great and... yeah I will kick that dude square in the testicles if I ever meet him IRL. He still owes me a $1k refund for shit heads.I do hope you arent referring to an ebay purchase of some RHS heads...:shifty: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallblocksn95 Posted May 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 i think I've just decided to go with these http://www.summitracing.com/parts/tfs-51416510-c02/overview/make/fordstill trying to figure out what my cr will be with these. Supposedly the factory E7s range from 62cc to 64cc. Factory compression for my particular 351w was 8.8 (supposedly), and after my block being decked i should be at 8.9cr (assuming the factory heads are installed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom351R Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 I wonder.... I had always heard that RHS was pretty good. I really like my Trick Flows, I had wanted TFS heads for along time anyway. The port work on these were beautiful, almost a shame to have to bolt them onto the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revhead347 Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 I always have my heads O-ringed, and yes you can run regular head gaskets. The guy who runs the local dyno shop in Port Orange always swears by RHS heads, but he mostly does LSx stuff.Kurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallblocksn95 Posted May 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 (edited) Yesterday was a good day...LMAF came in, and got my distributor, oil pump, and balancer. I also ordered a pushrod length tool from summit and my hood from HO fibertrends Edited May 25, 2013 by smallblocksn95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom351R Posted May 25, 2013 Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 nice............very nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Yesterday was a good day...LMAF came in, and got my distributor, oil pump, and balancer. I also ordered a pushrod length tool from summit and my hood from HO fibertrendsDamn. If I knew you were looking I would have let you borrow mine. I have a length checker and a lifter already converted to be solid for valve train measurement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 What are you shooting for in the hp/tq department with the 351? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallblocksn95 Posted May 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 obviously its not a no holds barred build, BUT......the set ups ive seen around that are similar to mine put down around 325hp 360tq to 380hp to 425tq. if mine makes say 325hp and 350tq at the wheels ill be happy. Its a street car for one and the windsor (IMO) is just a better foundation to start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Those are respectable numbers. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottydsntknow Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 I'd honestly be pissed if I build a 351w based combo and all I got was 325whp especially with TFSR heads. You can hit near those numbers you posted with a HCI 302. I am with the other posters when I say, do it once, do it all at once and do it right. I had a low mileage Cobra sit out for over a year as I tried to do it piecemeal and I really do feel I did a disservice to that car. I was seriously amazed at how much sitting outside fucks up a car vs driving it even if its not a daily. If you aren't going to stroke out this thing to a 408 and throw a good HCI at it I would say don't bother. A mild 408 street stroker is an easy 500 to the wheels on pump gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallblocksn95 Posted May 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) I'm not going with TFSR's, I'm using TFS 205's and a small cam. If I do it all now I won't get to enjoy it this year, AND I won't get to enjoy making improvements each year. If I can't do that I don't see a point to even own the car. Everyone has their own views and opinions. Obviously I'm leaving alot on the table with a lightning intake, small cam, and low compression. Who knows maybe next year I change to a better intake, or maybe even drop a turbo on it, or swap to a 6 speed. That's just how I want to do it Edited May 31, 2013 by smallblocksn95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustangmanjeff Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 nice build! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallblocksn95 Posted June 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Hood came in today, already bolted it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 that hood is gonna look awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnyxCobra Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 love the hood, i wonder why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Very nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallblocksn95 Posted June 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 One of HO's finest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-Oh Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 One of HO's finestIt's the fit/quality? How long did it take to ship? Just ordered one from them.Sent from Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallblocksn95 Posted June 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Quality is great, and it seams to fit pretty good. I ordered mine the Friday before Memorial Day and got it yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Psychorugby Posted June 18, 2013 Moderators Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Quality is great, and it seams to fit pretty good. I ordered mine the Friday before Memorial Day and got it yesterday.Wish they made a '00 R style hood for the 94-98 body style. Their prices look really good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-Oh Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Quality is great, and it seams to fit pretty good. I ordered mine the Friday before Memorial Day and got it yesterday.Holy shit lol... 4 weeks for shipping?! Looks like ill be hoodless for mustang week.Sent from Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64bit_Tuning Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Holy shit lol... 4 weeks for shipping?! Looks like ill be hoodless for mustang week.Sent from SpaceAssuming of course, that we get it running right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-Oh Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Assuming of course, that we get it running right.I have faith! I'll be getting back with you about it by friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64bit_Tuning Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 I have faith! I'll be getting back with you about it by friday.I hope were good this time around though. I go away for my annual training on the 12th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallblocksn95 Posted June 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 I hope were good this time around though. I go away for my annual training on the 12th.gas chamber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64bit_Tuning Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 gas chamber?No, artillery.My battery wouldn't let me do the CS chamber last time. They didn't think it was funny that the gas doesn't bother me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallblocksn95 Posted July 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Cam, timing set, and extra fuel rails came today. And it sounds like the car will be getting parked soon for paint and motor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallblocksn95 Posted July 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 i plan to have the car painted, engine in, broke in, tuned, and rear end work done in time for this.....http://www.mustang50thbirthdaycelebration.comI plan on going to the one in charlotte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolocut Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 I'm not going with TFSR's, I'm using TFS 205's and a small cam. If I do it all now I won't get to enjoy it this year, AND I won't get to enjoy making improvements each year. If I can't do that I don't see a point to even own the car. Everyone has their own views and opinions. Obviously I'm leaving alot on the table with a lightning intake, small cam, and low compression. Who knows maybe next year I change to a better intake, or maybe even drop a turbo on it, or swap to a 6 speed. That's just how I want to do itYeah, throw boost at it, with the 205 heads you won't need custom headers like I did with my tfsr225s. I want to build a turbo kit for my car but I need to buy custom flanges then make my own log manifolds because even if I cut the flanges off let's say a hellion kit I have sitting in my room, I would still need to adapt the piping from the 1.875 primary tubes to the 1 5/8 hellion manifolds without making it look hacked up. You saved yourself some money by only getting 205s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...