Sleeperstang1994 Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 i dont think you will regret that decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01yellercobra Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 i dont think you will regret that decision +1. Very smart move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copmagnet Posted February 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 I had been so back and fourth with with it, since power isnt what kills them, its more RPM (and i'm staying below stock rev limiter) and I don't have a blower pulling on the crank..but at the same time I had that shadow of a doubt there.. I'll just be happy when it's done and I forget how mkuch I spent on this damn car.. but I'll have a pretty solid ass motor for sure.. I forgot to post it, but I had to cut the old water pump nipple because i bent it to much hammering it out so once it broke loose it wouldnt fit through the hole.. but new nipple is in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Psychorugby Posted February 18, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 heh nipple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copmagnet Posted February 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 lol^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copmagnet Posted February 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Turbo kit and billet oil pump gears showed up today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 We demand pics!Sent from my iPhablet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copmagnet Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 I'll think about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 I'll think about itLol why do you require thinking?Sent from my iPhablet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copmagnet Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 All I have for now, my mom isn't about sending me photos.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeperstang1994 Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 looks good. im interested to see how much modification that your going to need to make on this kit. even if its 2000 worth of mods its still a budget friendly kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copmagnet Posted February 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 No joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copmagnet Posted February 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Machine shop called, My heads are done. Deckedjournals cleaned upnew valve sealsvalve jobopened up intake and exhaust valve seats $575 Out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeperstang1994 Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 does not sound like a horrible price. did you change out the valve guides or just the seals? now would be a great time to put in some GT super car lash adjusters and followers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copmagnet Posted February 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 I would not benefit from gt supercar followers or lifters. I won't be spinning this high enough to see any real gains. and for the price they run? pass.. I told the shop to replace any guides that did not look good.. apparently they were all good because they didn't replace any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copmagnet Posted February 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Parts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeperstang1994 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Looking good! now you just need to get some nice install pics! Any idea who On3 sources their turbos from? turbonetics? or possibly just a rebranded Chinese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Running studs on the heads or bolts?Sent from my iPhablet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copmagnet Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Looking good! now you just need to get some nice install pics! Any idea who On3 sources their turbos from? turbonetics? or possibly just a rebranded Chinese?I honestly have no idea, I have heard shit completely across the board about where they come from. Running studs on the heads or bolts?Sent from my iPhabletStuds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copmagnet Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 So I got the TSS gears installed and pump in. Got my heads from shop, got the arp studs in. Me and my 17 yr old sister carried the shortblock through my house into my garage to my 1000lb stand.. got the heads on. then i found out i was missing an arp nut.. I went and got a grade 8 nut to use instead. I found the nut as i was screwing on the grade 8 nut lol.. I got the motor timed. (side note, I found out fords instructions on how to time these motors are WRONG so DO NOT try to follow them. well...unless you want your drivers side cams 180 degrees off.) THEN, I hit my first snag with my on3 kit.....the drivers side header bolt holes are drilled 1/8 short. so I cannot get it on because the furthest right and furthest left stud threads are contacting the side of the hole. luckily i have a drill press and can just bore it a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01yellercobra Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 How are the Ford instructions wrong? I've used my service manual on mine and a buddies car with no issues.Long block looks good. You must be itching to get it running again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copmagnet Posted March 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 The ford instructions tell you to put the drivers side cams 180 degrees out. it only says this on the page were it shows you to time the primary chains. the page prior and page after show something else. timing upside down will work, and will not cause PTV, but it will not ever crank.. we figured out why the machine shop near me installed my buddies driver side cobra cams upside down.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 The ford instructions tell you to put the drivers side cams 180 degrees out. it only says this on the page were it shows you to time the primary chains. the page prior and page after show something else. timing upside down will work, and will not cause PTV, but it will not ever crank.. we figured out why the machine shop near me installed my buddies driver side cobra cams upside down....Are you using the cam holding tool? It sets it in the right orientation, and I'm fairly certain it only goes in one way. Sent from my iPhablet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copmagnet Posted March 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 No, I have never uses them. I time it before I tighten the cams down so I don't worry about any PTV. Takes me 20 minutes to time it. I don't want to rent that tool from Autozone, its like $170. My valve covers and timing cover should be here next weekend, I have to cut some baffles out of my oil pan, get it drilled and tapped for my return line, then get it in the car.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 No, I have never uses them. I time it before I tighten the cams down so I don't worry about any PTV. Takes me 20 minutes to time it. I don't want to rent that tool from Autozone, its like $170.My valve covers and timing cover should be here next weekend, I have to cut some baffles out of my oil pan, get it drilled and tapped for my return line, then get it in the car..might be worth your time to invest in one if you plan on doing it again. that way you dont have to worry about your cams being 180 off. $100 shippedhttp://www.amazon.com/OTC-4-Valve-Cam-Timing-Ford/dp/B000O16LJY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copmagnet Posted March 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 I'm not worried about it. I have timed enough of these to know how to do it, I was just rather drunk and decided to follow instructions. Once I noticed it was wrong I timed it my way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeperstang1994 Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 the way will has his set up is the correct way to do it. Im not saying you cant do it with out them because I do it all the time also don't take the pictures to seriously. a lot of times for will use 3.0 DOHC Taurus pictures when it come to timing components for the early 4.6 stuff. Interesting things I found out the hard way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copmagnet Posted March 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Under normal sober circumstances I wouldn't have looked at them at all.. but.. well yea.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01yellercobra Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Weird. I have the service manual on my old computer and it didn't have that issue. It might've been a different edition. Too bad that computer has the blue screen of death now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copmagnet Posted March 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 I'm unsure of how old the I structions are, but this is the newest timing kit out with the "f" marked chains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-Oh Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Is that an iphone 2 @copmagnet ? ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex302 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 coming together nicely!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copmagnet Posted March 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Just a droid with assembly lube all over the camera. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copmagnet Posted March 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I spent some hard time thinking about it.. But I finally said fuck it. The factory on3 drain line didn't really meet my standards, two ruber lines, a bent metal tube, 2 barb fittings and 4 pipe clamps..alot of people say it's ok but this is a accident waiting to happen.. so I got some stuff today to make my own kit. I ordered from three different places so maybe it will all be in before friday.. For the turbo side http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbo-Oil-DRAIN-OUTLET-Flange-Gasket-Adapter-Kit-10AN-MALE-10-AN-Fitting-T3-T4-/281540591705?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item418d208059&vxp=mtr For the line Wasn't sure if a straight would work or it would be slightly off so I got two fittings for this part. https://www.anfittingsdirect.com/an-fittings/aluminum--10an-fittings-p-1255.html?osCsid=f8174edab29220f5b48e7d5141791172https://www.anfittingsdirect.com/an-fittings/10an-adaptor-for-stainless-steel-lines-p-1258.html?osCsid=f8174edab29220f5b48e7d5141791172 https://www.anfittingsdirect.com/stainless-steel-lines/an-braided-stainless-steel-lines-p-1242.html?osCsid=f8174edab29220f5b48e7d5141791172 For the pan I got two 45 degree angles so, one will go on the pan side and this fitting for the block so I do not have to weld.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kinugawa-Turbo-Oil-Pan-Return-Drain-Plug-Adapter-Fitting-10AN-No-Welding-Steel/381166793338?_trksid=p2045573.c100034.m2102&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D28797%26meid%3Ddd28c717741f4d158e49d37478a24441%26pid%3D100034%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D181306234686 and I got 2 ft of line. since it looks to be about 17", 24" gives me some leeway. I am hoping the lines are actually braided and do not have that rubber coating on them, but I will live with it if they do have the coating. I plan to do the same for the feed line dwn the road, but for now the line in the kit looks like it will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copmagnet Posted March 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 So um......yea.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 doing big things man....big things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeperstang1994 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 looks good on the valve covers! are you going to color match the coil covers or do them different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copmagnet Posted March 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Coil covers are black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copmagnet Posted March 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Ok So today I went pretty ballz to the wall. of course I know some of you could work faster but I'm not a super fast worker. I got the K member in and lined up as much as it will physically go. got the steering rack cleaned up since it was black and nasty with road grime. got the old bushings out and the new offset bushings greased and installed, finally figured out what size the UPR steering rack bolts are (5 1/2-1/2 but 6-1/2 gives you a little more thread space) spent 45 minutes torching and fighting the old tie rod ends to get them off and got the steeda bumpsteer kit on. made ANOTHER trip to tailors to get bolts to connect the A-arms to the K member since the ones I got with the kit were rusted and raster nasty looking. Those bolts are (15mm by 5.5 inches or 5/8x5.5") 45$ in bolts later... got the A-arms on and loosely bolted on. got the old Coilovers and tokico's off and played with the bilstiens I got from rolocut. I got the front braided brake lines installed (brakes are getting painted tomorrow along with spindles before install). so now all I am waiting for is the MM coilover kit, a new front swaybar mount (we fucked one up pulling the motor) and sway bar end link bushings. and lastly... I "mach,ed" up my turbo kit..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-Oh Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Hoover vacuum for extra boost!! @Blackmage knows all about that. Kit looks nice, time to ditch all that non sense in the engine bay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...