Sho Amo Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 I'm ready to get an 03/04 cobra rack for my car. I was just wondering if the prices Im seeing on eBay are reasonable ~300. Or do you recommend getting it elsewhere? I've found thru searching that I need one that ends in ZM. Any other information that would help is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
410sn95 Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Or get a new rebuilt rack to Cobra R specs for roughly 100 more? http://www.agrperformance.com/Ford-Cars-AGR-Performance-MB-Motorsports.htm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prokiller Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 rockauto has them for like $210 with a $90 core charge. manufactured cardone one but it does specifically list it as a SPR-ZM. A-1 CARDONE Part # 222000{#2R3Z3504AA, 2R3Z3504AARM, F6SZ3280BA} Reman. - Hydraulic Power Steering Rack & Pinon [Complete Unit] Includes Inner Tie RodsProduction Code SPR-ZM; Includes Inner Tie Rods; Inline filter available $119.79 $90.00 $209.79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 rockauto has them for like $210 with a $90 core charge. manufactured cardone one but it does specifically list it as a SPR-ZM.A-1 CARDONE Part # 222000{#2R3Z3504AA, 2R3Z3504AARM, F6SZ3280BA} Reman. - Hydraulic Power Steering Rack & Pinon [Complete Unit] Includes Inner Tie RodsProduction Code SPR-ZM; Includes Inner Tie Rods; Inline filter available $119.79 $90.00 $209.79 I swore there was a topic on this at some point and people were saying rock auto was not actually sending out Cobra racks and they were regular ones. I could be mistaken but I coulda swore i saw it somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Amo Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 I saw the same thing^^ I had a problem with that in my rx7. They had turbo2 axles listed but would send out regular axles which look the same but have a different spline and bolt pattern.The cobra R spec route sounds interesting. I'll check into it a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Amo Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 The cobra R spec from AGR is $476Next question: Do I need to use 94/95 inner tie rods or are they the same? I have a MM bumpsteer Kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
410sn95 Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 This link might help:http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?680429-Terminator-Steering-Rack-(How-to-get-it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
410sn95 Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 The cobra R spec from AGR is $476Next question: Do I need to use 94/95 inner tie rods or are they the same? I have a MM bumpsteer Kit. Cheaper from summit... $408 and free shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Amo Posted May 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 The reviews I'm reading about AGR are absolutely horrible. I think I'm going to take the chance on the A1 unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris91 Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 I know a guy selling one for $250 but shipping would probably bring the cost up too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Psychorugby Posted May 28, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 I managed to find a Terminator rack on eBay for $180 and reasonable shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttocs Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 I have to ask what that rack buys me over the stock gt rack? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
410sn95 Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 I have to ask what that rack buys me over the stock gt rack? Just curious. Steering feel. It has a lot to do with the torsion bar being thicker and machining in the spool valve. Gives heavier steering feel. Added bonus they have built in rack limiters for wider front wheel/tire setup. If you have ever driven an 03-04 Cobra, the difference in steering feel is noticeable when compared to our early sn95's. Read:http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/drivetrain/m5lp-1207-power-steering-steered-straight/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Amo Posted May 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 So I called Rockauto and asked about the product. They said they have sold 97 of them and only one return. So I went ahead and ordered it from them. They ended up sending me an email with return instructions just in case. I love ROCKAUTO! I'll be sure to check how many turns lock to lock and review the steering feel. Should be sometime next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
410sn95 Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 So I called Rockauto and asked about the product. They said they have sold 97 of them and only one return. So I went ahead and ordered it from them. They ended up sending me an email with return instructions just in case. I love ROCKAUTO! I'll be sure to check how many turns lock to lock and review the steering feel. Should be sometime next week. Nice. I did the same from local NAPA to take a look at. Buddy runs the store and is cool with sending back if it isn't what its supposed to be. Will be here today... Let us know what dimple code housing you get as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
410sn95 Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Took a look. The rack sent to the local store is a ZK stamped rack. Out of a 02-04 GT. Rather than take a gamble, I decided to have it shipped back. No harm, no foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Amo Posted May 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Took a look. The rack sent to the local store is a ZK stamped rack. Out of a 02-04 GT. Rather than take a gamble, I decided to have it shipped back. No harm, no foul. So what are you planning to do now? I have read on other forums that they think A1 is just using any housing but putting the correct bump stops and torsion bar in for specific applications. Why else would they make the justification between the dimple codes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
410sn95 Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 So what are you planning to do now? I have read on other forums that they think A1 is just using any housing but putting the correct bump stops and torsion bar in for specific applications. Why else would they make the justification between the dimple codes? I am going to wait for a take off. I just want to be sure I am getting the rack I want. The car is not a dd and can sit. Let us know what you find when you get the one you ordered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Amo Posted May 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Will do, and I think whichever housing I get I'll install and test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SublimeRT Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 I have also heard not so great things about AGR products. Hopefully your Rock Auto rack is a Cobra unit. I would also recommend some MM solid rack bushings while you're at it. Inexpensive and quite effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Amo Posted May 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 I do have MM's poly rack bushings, thought about solid but didn't pull the trigger. Came home from work this morning (midnight shift) to this shitty box.Instead of bags of air it should be bubble wrapped. That's just ridiculous.It's a ZM! Also I'll post the picture later but you can tell it's a cobra housing by the dimple towards the middle and the way the lines are run. Check out @95riosnake 's build thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
410sn95 Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Amo Posted May 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Stock 95 v6 rack... 03/04 cobra top - Dan was trying to show the difference in the way they ran the lines as well. I hope this helps someone in the future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95riosnake Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Good to see you got what you ordered, it can be a crap shoot with online ordering these days. Most of the time, even calling and asking someone can't guarantee anything lol. I bought mine on SVTP from a guy parting out a cobra, so I knew it was definitely a cobra unit lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 wow surprised it was actually a cobra unit! nice pick up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Amo Posted July 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Update! So the stock rack was 2.5 turns lock to lock. This rack is only 2 turns! So it definitely has the 03/04 cobra steering limiters inside, and the steering feel was definitely tighter. I ended up swapping one of the hard lines from my stock rack onto this one because there was some interference with the K member.Overall I'm happy with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 woot woot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95riosnake Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 I wish I still had my 95 rack, I need to swap one of the hard lines for more clearance with the Team Z k-member gusseting. Maybe I can find a part out and buy one walmart-cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Psychorugby Posted July 21, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 I wish I still had my 95 rack, I need to swap one of the hard lines for more clearance with the Team Z k-member gusseting. Maybe I can find a part out and buy one walmart-cheap. I've got the rack out of my car... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95riosnake Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 I've got the rack out of my car... I forget what your plans are rack-wise. Are you reusing it or selling it? I could maybe send you the hard line from my 03 and we could just trade them? Wouldn't be till after the move anyway, I have to keep the car in roller status so I can flat bed it to the new house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Psychorugby Posted July 21, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 I forget what your plans are rack-wise. Are you reusing it or selling it? I could maybe send you the hard line from my 03 and we could just trade them? Wouldn't be till after the move anyway, I have to keep the car in roller status so I can flat bed it to the new house. It's yours if you want it. I have an 03/04 rack to replace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95riosnake Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 The line or the whole rack? I don't really need the whole rack and shipping for the whole thing will be a tiny bit more than for just a line lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Amo Posted July 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Tid bit of info. For those hard lines they have the same style of plastic gasket as the high pressure hose. I just re-used the ones that were in my rack since it was just rebuilt and it sealed fine. Im not sure if they are easily sourced or not but if its an old rack id be trying to find them. @95riosnake - I thought of that post in your build thread when I was trying to install it. I also wondered why you didn't just do the same thing lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droptoppony Posted July 30, 2015 Report Share Posted July 30, 2015 Good to see the internals were legit Cobra spec. I picked up my 04 rack from ebay for $100 guy was going manual and car only had 40k miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...