sethg702 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 whats goin on guys?what are guys running to correct the "toe-in, tow-out" effect after lowering your mustang? I have motorsport lowering springs and im running the 5 spoke cobra chrome 17x9 wheel set up, with 275-40R17 on all four corners. im -1.6 deg on the driver side and -1.5deg on the passanger side. I know its not alot, but driving down the highway it pulls to the right and I fight the steering wheel a little bit. thanks in advance for the imput! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve@CJPP Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 once i get around to it I will be running the MM plates on my Bullitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 If it's camber that's causing an issue, definitely use a 4 bolt design. Most guys on here run Maximum Motorsports but there are other ones that will do the job.However, if its the toe in/toe out that you're concerned with, you could be looking at bumpsteer and tie rod adjustment to correct it. The camber/caster plate will correct how your wheel is tilting on the x plane. I can't find the article that explains it super well but take a look at these links:http://www.ozebiz.com.au/racetech/theory/align.htmlhttp://www.goaheadtakethewheel.com/build-repairs-maintenance/vehicle-caster-camber-and-toe-alignment-explained.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revhead347 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 I am running an old set of Steel Steeda ones. I've rebuilt them once before. They definately aren't showy, but very functional. If you ever intend to run coil overs, make sure you get a steel set, not an aluminum set. Most of them function the same. I honestly don't know where the 4 bolt craze came from. We've been running 3 bolt plates long before 4 bolt plates came out. I've never seen a 3 bolt plate fail even with coil overs, so I don't see why you would spend all that time drilling out the car for a 4 bolt. If you aren't running coil overs, there is absolutely no advantage to buying a 4 bolt; it's total over kill.Kurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Maximum Motorsports C&C plates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SniveTroll Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 i personally have bent the shock tower from the 3-bolt hole plates. i hammered it flat again. i didnt over-torque neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 i went with purdy ones BBK grips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95riosnake Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) Black MM 4 bolt Edited February 9, 2013 by 95riosnake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) mine are in there among the sea of hoses and wires Edited February 9, 2013 by tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy95GT Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Black MM 4 boltThese are what I run aswellSent from my phone using tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sethg702 Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 ^^^ god your stang is gorgeous. Thanks for the reply(thats for everyone). I have to shop around, And get some other bills out of the way first. Is it still cool to drive you think? -1.5 degrees isnt alot. I just dont want to wear out the rubber. Ill rotate from front to back when I get the plates installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sethg702 Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 thanks for all the responses, Ill just keep an eye out and shop around. I have to get some other bills out of the way first. You guys think its still ok to drive? -1.5 degrees isnt alot...Ill rotate my tires from front to back when I get the plates installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95riosnake Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 The toe in/toe out is what will really eat tires, a bit of negative camber isn't a big deal. As long as your toe isn't waaay off you should be ok to drive it a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I'm running 3 bolt but have wanting to upgrade it does the job I need for the time [ATTACH]1669[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fry Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 MM c/c plates. Definitely worth the extra money, never had an alignment issue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iRoush Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 MM c/c plates. Definitely worth the extra money, never had an alignment issue!this.-3 degrees of camber6.0 Degrees of caster1/4" of Inward Toe0 Bumpsteer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slykin Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 MM Plates here too. I'm a bit of a fanboy... though when their parts are so nice, and the customer service so great, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95riosnake Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 ^ my thoughts exactly. MM develops their parts from beating the tar out of them on the track. Usually their stuff is built far better/stronger than it needs to be. I also am a big fan of Team Z, their stuff is right up there with MM in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iRoush Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 ^ my thoughts exactly. MM develops their parts from beating the tar out of them on the track. Usually their stuff is built far better/stronger than it needs to be. I also am a big fan of Team Z, their stuff is right up there with MM in my opinion.Honestly for road racing there are only 3 brands I trust. MM, Griggs Racing, and Agent 47.The best suspension setup that you can run on a SRA based car has to be as follows:Agent 47 Double A-Arm SuspensionMaximum Motorsports K-MemberGriggs Racing Through Floor SFC'sRoll cage tied into SFC'sMaximum Motorsports Rear CoiloversMaximum Motorsports Torque ArmGriggs Racing Watts LinkRear strut Bar (welded)That setup would be unbeatable. Front strut bar is worthless since you can't realistically weld it in. Any chassis stiffening that's bolt in is worthless. Also sway bars depend on driving preference so I left those out lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slykin Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 I wasn't even aware you could use the Agent 47 A-Arm setup with the Maximum motorsports k-member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iRoush Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 I wasn't even aware you could use the Agent 47 A-Arm setup with the Maximum motorsports k-member.uses factory mounts so I don't see why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95riosnake Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 The Agent 47 double A-Arm setup is most definitely cost-prohibitive at $4,400... but sweet baby Jesus it's nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slykin Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 uses factory mounts so I don't see why not?For some reason I assumed the bushing sizes for the A-Arms were slightly different. That, or the geometry of the MM k-member wouldn't work well with the Agent47 arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iRoush Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 The Agent 47 double A-Arm setup is most definitely cost-prohibitive at $4,400... but sweet baby Jesus it's nice.let's just say its high on my to do list.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F8L GT Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Got my plates today, only problem is there wasnt any instructions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnyxCobra Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 uses factory mounts so I don't see why not?i'm not 100% but i'm pretty sure you can't use factory A arms with the MM K member so I wouldn't be surprised if others wouldn't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iRoush Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 i'm not 100% but i'm pretty sure you can't use factory A arms with the MM K member so I wouldn't be surprised if others wouldn't either.yeah, disregard about k-member for some reason I didn't think the a-arms agent 47 sells includes a k member but it does... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Bumping this up to the top. So with my recent change to fox length everything, I can't seem to get enough adjustment out of my camber caster plates. For anyone running fox length a-arms on an Sn, what c/c plates are you running? @95riosnake I think I remember you saying that you're running fox length? @NVRL8TE I know that you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-Oh Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 @Det_Riot , which plates do you have, I forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 @Det_Riot , which plates do you have, I forget.Just some Kenny brown 3-holes. Its weird because they worked good when I was running them as camber/camber plates but when I spun them the right way and run them correctly as camber caster plates, there isn't enough adjustment lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Psychorugby Posted July 24, 2014 Moderators Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Just some Kenny brown 3-holes. Its weird because they worked good when I was running them as camber/camber plates but when I spun them the right way and run them correctly as camber caster plates, there isn't enough adjustment lol Want some 4 bolt UPR jobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-Oh Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Lol damnit, stupid camber plates! Reason I was asking is you can swap the top plates on the MM one's to get more adjustment. Maybe it's time to switch to a 4 bolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95riosnake Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Bumping this up to the top. So with my recent change to fox length everything, I can't seem to get enough adjustment out of my camber caster plates. For anyone running fox length a-arms on an Sn, what c/c plates are you running? @95riosnake I think I remember you saying that you're running fox length? @NVRL8TE I know that you are. I used to run fox length Team Z control arms, running MM 94-04 length arms now. I ran MM 4 bolt plates with both setups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forcefedhatch Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Ford racing CC plates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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