Brian Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Hey yall,When I had my exhaust installed the shop said to look into switching to a mini starter to give more clearance to the exhaust and also it would help with the starter failing due to overheating. It doesn't hit the exhaust but it is closer than I would like. I've been looking around but unfortunately there isn't a ton of information on starters that online stores offer so I don't know which to get. Also going to also pick up a heat shield just to added protection.Please give your input & any information you can provide relating to starters and what I should be looking for & also what to avoid.What I am currently looking at:Powermaster Mini Starter & Heat Shield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnyxCobra Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 same size as what came stock brotha, kinda dig that heat shield though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Maybe I'll just grab the shield. It starts fine so I don't really need one for that reasoning. Thanks for the info bro! I fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom351R Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 I almost bought one when I did my long tubes until I discovered that we already have mini starters. The aftermarket ones are the same size. I would as well just grab the heat shield and call it good. Thats probably all I will end up doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 The only thing I did notice is some say they have an offset mounting position to help with clearance. I wonder what the difference would be if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-Oh Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 This is the starter I have. In the "description" part of the page it kind of explains where "mini-starter" is applicable. http://www.paperformance.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=47Sent from Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 This is the starter I have. In the "description" part of the page it kind of explains where "mini-starter" is applicable. http://www.paperformance.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=47Did you happen to compare them when you swapped? Did the new one look smaller? Also was there an increase in power in the new one you went to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom351R Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 I'll take a look at how much clearance I have with mine once I get it back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-Oh Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Did you happen to compare them when you swapped? Did the new one look smaller? Also was there an increase in power in the new one you went to?I knew this would be asked lol but no I don't remember. I changed it out a few years back. I can mock it up and take a picture if you'd like but I don't have the old starter. In fact let me put it this way; my original starter definitely cleared my BBK long tubes. Whether or not the failure of the original one was caused by the long tubes is not certain.Sent from Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Tew Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 I was working on a boat motor this week that had an offset starter like you mentioned. It was a GM (Vortec V6) but still, we had to use it to clear the bellhousing for the drive.I'm interested in the shield though, I might get it. my wrong tubes hug the starter pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnyxCobra Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 When i swapped mine with a new starter they were the same size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy95GT Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 good info, cause i was looking for a "mini" starter aswell... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revhead347 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I tried the heat shield, it's hopeless. You need a Denso gear reduction starter. I put one of these in about 11 years ago. You pull the car up onto a rollback with this thing. I mean it practically brings the car up to idle when you turn the key. It's standard equipment on some Corvette's, Chryslers, and a few other Japanese cars. The price at Advance is a little high, but I'm putting the link so you at least know what it looks like.http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_mastertorque-starter--infi-clock&153;-small-block-ford-3-4-depth-powermaster_19220312-p?searchTerm=performance+starterKurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Thank you very much Kurt. I will pay for a quality piece. I really appreciate the lead! I'll see if I can find a better price!!Edit:Do you by chance have a part number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revhead347 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 The PowerMaster part number is PM9603. But honestly, they don't make it. They are just rebranding a Denso part. I think I paid $189 for it 11 years ago from an electric shop. The original Denso number is 228000-8432. I went and found one for sale. This guy has a bizzilion sales with 100% positive feedback, so that's as good as it gets. I found the ad flyer in .pdf, and it's a 1.8Kw starter. I think the stock one is like a 1.1Kw or something like that. I also have BBK headers and it fits fine. And hey, it's gone down a dollar since I bought 11 years ago.http://www.ebay.com/itm/STARTER-FORD-SB-SUPER-TORQUE-DENSO-STYLE-/330762230510?_trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSI%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BUA%252BFICS%26otn%3D15%26pmod%3D160744214765%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D672690367226024114&_qi=RTM1062690Kurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 You're quickly becoming a good friend! Thank you sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revhead347 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Some things are hit or miss, but this purchase I'm absolutely sure you are going to be pleased. You can also contact the seller to ensure that that starter will fit with your flywheel etc. It advertises that it has protection against heat soaking, but I honestly don't think it's any more heat resistant than the stock one. It's just so grossly overpowered that a little heat soak doesn't matter. You're going to be blown away the first time you hit the key, this thing could start a jet engine.Kurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnyxCobra Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 damn it all, now i want one one of those badass starters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
