Possible to add hinges/latch to pin on hood?

[Gallows]

I was looking over the Cobra today and noticed that I have a crack on the right side of the hood by the scoop. I guess the FR500 and spacer are too close for comfort. I adjusted it up but it is still close and out of line with the fender. I was looking at my options and I do not want a cowl hood. I really like the Griggs

 

 

but it is a pin on hood. Is it possible to add a latch and hinges to one of these?

 

Another choice is the Saleen heat extractor. Anyone still making these?

 

 

 

Or a raised 96-98 style - http://www.hofibertrends.com/1994-1998mustangcobrahood.aspx

 

[Det_Riot]

I had this crazy thought one day to fiberglass clue/epoxy or whatever you want to call it a shell from a bolt on hood to the bottom of a pin on hood. How it would actually work I have no idea but it crossed my mind before lol

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[ttocs]

_{Theoretically its all epoxy and sure you could stick some hinges on it.  Lining them up to open/close perfectly would be the challenge and I can't say that I would trust it all that well myself.}

 

_{There are plenty of places making the heat extractor still.  Just about to order a carbon fiber cobra R myself.}

[Gallows]

It sounds like a good idea. I would like to know if it is a sound one before my hood flies off lol. The other thing is that there isn't anyone remotely close who I would trust to do it properly.

Griggs would be my #1. After some more digging it appears that Kaenen makes the second one.

[SublimeRT]

That second pic is actually Cervini's 03-04 Cobra hood for the SN95s. They also make a smooth cowl that looks similar to the Griggs but without the vents. It's still taller than the Griggs though and you said you don't like cowls but check it out if you haven't yet.

I think Det_riot might be onto something there. There are some pretty stout panel adhesives out now purposely made to bond panels onto cars rather than welding them (for steel, but also applicable for composite panels).

[Det_Riot]

I actually think the process of bonding one to another might not be as hard as you think. Attach the frame work to the hinges and latch, square it up, make sure its all level, and have something underneath it so you can set the top on it. Set the top on it and make sure its straight. Then unlatch it, clamp the piss out of it, and bam, done!

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[95riosnake]

Just thinking out loud here, but if the hood is designed to attach with 4 hood pins, couldn't the rear 2 be pinned to a modded hood hinge bracket that has the pin mounted in it? I don't see any reason it would be any less secure than running the rear two pins in a fixed position. The only issue I can think of is whether the hood will have the necessary structure to support itself properly when opened, might not be designed for the weight of the hood to be focused on the rear corners.

 

That said, if it was doable, I would order a Griggs hood right here and now. I LOVE LOVE LOVE that hood, it's the only hood that I would ditch my 00R for.

[95riosnake]

Ohhhhh snap, quick investigation found a guy in Cali that posted his Griggs hood on SVTP, it certainly appears to be mounted as a hinged hood to me. His name on there is porkchop, looks like he hasn't been on that site since 2005, but he did state this "The only thing is that they come as a lift-off only hood. Mine was riveted directly to the hood hinges. Oh, and there's no place for a locking mechanism so the hood pins are IT."

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's the link to the thread: http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?191519-need-pics-of-hoods-mainly-carbon-fiber

[Gallows]

I think Det_riot might be onto something there. There are some pretty stout panel adhesives out now purposely made to bond panels onto cars rather than welding them (for steel, but also applicable for composite panels).

 

Thanks for the heads up. I will look into that.

 

Just thinking out loud here, but if the hood is designed to attach with 4 hood pins, couldn't the rear 2 be pinned to a modded hood hinge bracket that has the pin mounted in it? I don't see any reason it would be any less secure than running the rear two pins in a fixed position. The only issue I can think of is whether the hood will have the necessary structure to support itself properly when opened, might not be designed for the weight of the hood to be focused on the rear corners.

 

 

I'll also look into that^

 

Ohhhhh snap, quick investigation found a guy in Cali that posted his Griggs hood on SVTP, it certainly appears to be mounted as a hinged hood to me. His name on there is porkchop, looks like he hasn't been on that site since 2005, but he did state this "The only thing is that they come as a lift-off only hood. Mine was riveted directly to the hood hinges. Oh, and there's no place for a locking mechanism so the hood pins are IT."

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's the link to the thread: http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?191519-need-pics-of-hoods-mainly-carbon-fiber

 

Awesome! I could live with the front pins. Thanks for the link.

[95riosnake]

Awesome! I can live with the front pins. Thanks for the link.

 

A couple Aerocatch pins on the front would look titties! Plus you're golden having a black car, they'd blend right in without needing paint

[Det_Riot]

Ohhhhh snap, quick investigation found a guy in Cali that posted his Griggs hood on SVTP, it certainly appears to be mounted as a hinged hood to me. His name on there is porkchop, looks like he hasn't been on that site since 2005, but he did state this "The only thing is that they come as a lift-off only hood. Mine was riveted directly to the hood hinges. Oh, and there's no place for a locking mechanism so the hood pins are IT."

Here's the link to the thread: http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?191519-need-pics-of-hoods-mainly-carbon-fiber

Now that is racecar as fuck

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[410sn95]

I had this crazy thought one day to fiberglass clue/epoxy or whatever you want to call it a shell from a bolt on hood to the bottom of a pin on hood. How it would actually work I have no idea but it crossed my mind before lol

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That's exactly how Ford bonded the stock hood skins to the fiberglass lower layer/skeleton.  In fact there was a recall for the early 94-95 hoods as they were delaminating.  If you pull the hood blanket on a early stock GT hood, you might see two D shaped cut outs towards the front of the hood that have added adhesive material lining the cut.  That was the fix...

 

The Griggs hood is cool for sure.  Has anyone contacted them as to availability?  They don't update their site much and I know they have discontinued some parts that are still listed. Be a good idea to check to see if they even have them or will still make them for ya.

 

@Gallows : What about a Tiger racing hood?  Chicane 23 has CF bolt on versions available. Around the same price as the Griggs hood in CF without the added work. 

[95riosnake]

Chicane 23 has CF bolt on versions available. Around the same price as the Griggs hood in CF without the added work. 

 

I like how their hood for 94-98 is $1295, but the same hood for any other body style is $895, lol wtf.

[410sn95]

I like how their hood for 94-98 is $1295, but the same hood for any other body style is $895, lol wtf.

 

Don't quote me on this but I believe it may be because they only have CF for our year whereas the other prices are listed for fiberglass... If you click on some of em, CF option adds $600 on top of $895

[SublimeRT]

410sn95, I didn't know that about the hood recall. My Cobra has some D shaped cut outs in it, very poorly done. I always thought a previous owner was on their way to cutting some holes in the hood for some 03-04 Cobra flair.

[410sn95]

410sn95, I didn't know that about the hood recall. My Cobra has some D shaped cut outs in it, very poorly done. I always thought a previous owner was on their way to cutting some holes in the hood for some 03-04 Cobra flair.

 

Yup. Thought the same thing to... WTF, can't they cut a better hole!

 

Then had to look at it from the techs/recall perspective.  It's covered by hood blanket. Get the car in and out of the bay, ASAP.

[Gallows]

Thanks for all of the input guys. I am going to take a serious look at the Griggs and talk to my bodyman tomorrow.

[410sn95]

I noticed you mentioned you don't want a cowl hood. Where are you hitting? Sounds like your really close. Any chance you can cut out where the inner layer of the hood is hitting?  You can gain 1/4" or so then repair your hood.

[Gallows]

No liner. I notched the fiberglass in a couple of places but I think we the engine is under load it is twisting enough to hit the hood.

[Blackmage]

solid motor mounts or vert mounts? Shouldnt those drop it down just a touch also?

[Gallows]

Factory mounts. Are vert mounts lower or just stronger?

[410sn95]

Don't know the answer to vert mounts for a modular.  However, the solid mounts will eliminate A LOT of the torqueing around of the motor.  I have at most 1/8" clearance between my motor and hood.  No contact with solid mounts, this is with a big cube Windsor.

 

Completely livable on the street with rubber trans mount.

[Blackmage]

the vert mounts were supposedly stiffer, but I swore i have read numerous places they were like 1/2" shorter than the coupe mounts.  and now i cannot find a definitive answer on that.. lol

[Det_Riot]

the vert mounts were supposedly stiffer, but I swore i have read numerous places they were like 1/2" shorter than the coupe mounts. and now i cannot find a definitive answer on that.. lol

You aren't crazy because I've heard that as well.....

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[Gallows]

I didn't think there was any difference in height just strength. 1/2" would probably be enough to clear the hood. I haven't committed to anything yet and either mod will be a winter project.

[Gallows]

@Evilcw311 do you have any pics of your hood that you could share?

[Gallows]

I do like the look of the hood but I wonder what it would look like with the stock bumper? Still thinking...