Jalien Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 are they long, short or neither? tia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 They're not technically headers, just manifolds but they are short. Sent from my iPhablet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttocs Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 if your looking to replace them and keep your mid pipe you will want to replace them with a shorty version. Anything else and you will need to replace your mid pipe as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalien Posted March 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 thanks. i am having problems with the mid-pipe scraping on speed bumps. i need to bring them up somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 thanks. i am having problems with the mid-pipe scraping on speed bumps. i need to bring them up somehow.What mid pipe are you running? My offroad H pipe can't really be adjusted, but if you have some different brands they can be manipulated a little bit.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalien Posted March 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 afaik its stock. i bought the car july 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 afaik its stock. i bought the car july 2013. im going off your profile info so let me know if im wrong. your 2000 GT has this for a stock midpipe, as you can see there are NO adjustments that can really be had with it. Although, there are two hangers on the backside of each muffler, so if those are bad, then you can replace those rubber hangers with new ones and it should help the whole thing up a little bit. Otherwise you can go with an aftermarket mid pipe which will give you a little more motion and you could potentially bring the pipe up a little bit more, although your stock one should be fairly tight up against the body anyways.. something like this one on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttocs Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 All of those pipes can be adjusted. Get all 4 wheels off the ground and get under it and loosen all the mounting bolts till they are almost fall out. Use some stands or a couple of buddies to hold them up nice and tight to the floor and then tighten them all up and it should be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeperstang1994 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 I have donated a handful of stock h pipes to my local scrap yard. they apparently don't thing they are worth a crap because I hardly ever get much money for them. NOW Honda cats on the other hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
410sn95 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 A magazine did it so it must be the way to do things... Wish they would have then swapped to a real 3in system with good headers. Then see how much more it would make with EGT's measured before and after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01yellercobra Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 A magazine did it so it must be the way to do things...Wish they would have then swapped to a real 3in system with good headers. Then see how much more it would make with EGT's measured before and after.It was probably Kenne Belle. They seem to enjoy pushing the limits of stock parts and then saying they're fine with a BAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
410sn95 Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Testing with deleted cat converters on supercharged mustangs has been done. Zero HPhttp://kennebell.net/KBWebsite/Common/pdfs/MustangCatalyticConverters.pdf Here are some dyno tests with "good headers" on a subercharged cobra: Zero HPhttp://kennebell.net/KBWebsite/Common/pdfs/header_cat_xpipe_exhaust_tests.pdf According to KB I should go back to the STOCK sn95 mid-pipe with stock fox headers on a 700whp Windsor car and I will not see a change in power. Because the stock midpipe and manifolds are not a restriction? Laugh. Out. Loud Don't get me wrong, they market some nice shoe box blowers but a lot of what they say needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
410sn95 Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 ... a lot of hard enginering work was done the engine while no real work was done to the exhaust system. What? A lot of engineering was done to that exhaust system. A LOT of engineering was done to the whole package. To compare that exhaust system to a STOCK sn95 or New edge Cobra system is not apples to apples in any way. Ford runs BIGGER diameter pipes cause its a BIG POWER motor! Put the stock sn95 new edge midpipe with antiquated cat tech on the GT500... see what happens. You drank the koolaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member fiveohwblow Posted March 23, 2015 Supporting Member Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 I'm going to have to agree with 410 here. Why would you take one manufacturer who's marketing department is pushing an agenda to make their blowers looks like the end all bees knees over every single mustang owner in history who has upgraded their exhaust systems and attained more power? Choosing the needle and ignoring the haystack methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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01yellercobra Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 And it's been proven that aftermarket headers and exhaust increase power. Especially higher horsepower cars. Making the exhaust flow better has all kinds of positive affects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttocs Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 I thought the same myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01yellercobra Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 The fact that you totally missed why I upgraded lines and rails shows you only accept what you want and what supports whatever you think. Once again, you are the only person I have ever put on ignore. And now I'm remembering why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01yellercobra Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 @01yellercobra I wouldn't waste any more of your time. Some people have never had real life experience with building real power to know when they're hitting limitations and why they are hitting them. Some people fail to see that ford, as well as all manufacturers build these vehicles the way they build them with these restrictions due to cost and liability. If it was really that simple to make big power with all of the factory components then we'd all be driving 1,000hp monsters. But most of us live in the real world and have built cars and put them on the dyno to find out where the weak links or lack of needed parts is. Regardless of what anyone's opinion is, fact and experience tells us what most of us know and will continue to build buy. For those who think their factory components can make just as much power just as easily, well I openly invite you to try and if/when you prove with realistic dyno numbers then we shall give you a high five!!!!But until then, I myself and most others will sit and wait for such proof. This message courtesy of crapatalk!Yeah. I should know better from past experiences. I used to deal with him on SVTP. Not sure why I thought it would be different now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Well I guess I should swap to stock manifolds mid pipe and catback on my 331, so it will be quieter and make the same power, because any one not making 600+ rwhp is just pitiful.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01yellercobra Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 What were the values for the fuel flow,pressure, Horsepower, temp, data that you used for your calculations in determining the "need" to supposidly "upgrade"the fuel rails? While I'm sure you will show us your calculations you may want to take a look at some Real testing (not opinions) that generate Data such as fuel flow and pressure, Hp showing that stock fuel rails are more adequate at 1200HPIt would be nice if people who post in this thread would provide some data that we can chew on in the form of dyno runs showing air temp, A/F, baro. exhaust flow numbers in inches of mercury, fuel flow, volume, pressure to back upr your opinions because I will only accept data. Now I know you're just trying to troll. 3/8" diameter anything is not enough to support anything close to 1200hp. No matter how much pump you put behind it.Wait, which manufacturer are you employed by now? Since I'm sure that's the only way you get your "data".I really did try to have a discussion with you. Must be me getting older and more patient. But I think it's time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 holy shit lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttocs Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 I was thinking that it must be tough to go from one site to another doing nothing but arguing but he really seems to get off on it. I can only imagine what he must be like in real life to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01yellercobra Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 I was thinking that it must be tough to go from one site to another doing nothing but arguing but he really seems to get off on it. I can only imagine what he must be like in real life to deal with.It helps when you're banned from the sites. Don't have to worry about responding to those other threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Psychorugby Posted April 14, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 holy shit lol This. WTF are we even talking about here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Locking thread. This is going nowhere and making my head hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95riosnake Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Delete post button doing work today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
