Slykin Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 As the title states, my car is having idle issues now that the weather's cold. It doesn't necessarily want to die or anything, but it sounds really crappy until it idles for a couple minutes. It's been fine in the heat etc, just not with this below 40 crap. After the first run in the morning, it'll be fine for the rest of the day. Stock 5.0 with headers, and smog/egr removed. Any thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forcefedhatch Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Clean idle air control valve, and make sure your IAT sensor isn't set oddly in your intake( hanging too low/ high or partially in.. Colder the more timing bits going to either created or advance depending on flow and total engine tempSent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64bit_Tuning Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 EGR delete without a tune? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slykin Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 I'll check into it Forcefed, and yeah Mk2, no tune. Though, i'm not sure why it would behave differently in the cold than in the heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64bit_Tuning Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 I too would love a solid explaination, however I do know that after I deleted my EGR, I always had initial startup issues in low temperatures. Once I properly deleted it in my tune (testing by making no other changes) the problem magically went away.I say magic because people who dont understand the root cause of something, and have no scientific proof.... can sometimes get away with it. (like religion)What I can conclusively prove though, is that you should put it back on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slykin Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Well, putting it back on isn't really an option.. it's all in pieces. I'll deal with it until I can get it tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64bit_Tuning Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 a wise man once said... "you shouldnt remove things that you can benefit from having"If fixing your idle can be had by putting an EGR back in, you should do it. Especially when it'll bring you some MPG increase, and help your car run smoother too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slykin Posted January 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Nah.. i'm good for now if this is the only problem it's causing. I hate having all of that crap beside the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMR Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Dumb question; Isn't the whole idear of deleting the EGR to get better fuel mileage and longer engine life as well as alittle gain in power? ..or is that with a tune? I searched around for it and one part says the EGR system: "helps keep the combustion temps down, increases mpg and makes cleaner emissions"And the other part says: "Deleting the EGR system helps keep the combustion temps down, increases mpg and makes cleaner emissions"And some say "EGR delete is worth 0 hp" and some say it gives a few HP.If part one is correct; then what is the point of deleting it? ..other than to clean up the engine bay...obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Dumb question; Isn't the whole idear of deleting the EGR to get better fuel mileage and longer engine life as well as alittle gain in power? ..or is that with a tune? I searched around for it and one part says the EGR system: "helps keep the combustion temps down, increases mpg and makes cleaner emissions"And the other part says: "Deleting the EGR system helps keep the combustion temps down, increases mpg and makes cleaner emissions"And some say "EGR delete is worth 0 hp" and some say it gives a few HP.If part one is correct; then what is the point of deleting it? ..other than to clean up the engine bay...obviously.Cleaning up the engine bay, freeing up horsepower when the pump seizes up and your motor is working on spinning that aswell. The only advantage comes when you actually delete it in the tune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMR Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Cleaning up the engine bay, freeing up horsepower when the pump seizes up and your motor is working on spinning that aswell. The only advantage comes when you actually delete it in the tuneWhat does the delete + tune actually do then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 What does the delete + tune actually do then? Magic? Idk. I wish i knew but ive never been explained Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slykin Posted January 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 I just got rid of it because it's a PITA to mess with the passenger side header with it on lol. I'm not very patient with that crap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMR Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Magic? Idk. I wish i knew but ive never been explainedI will make a thread then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64bit_Tuning Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Dumb question; Isn't the whole idear of deleting the EGR to get better fuel mileage and longer engine life as well as alittle gain in power? ..or is that with a tune? I searched around for it and one part says the EGR system: "helps keep the combustion temps down, increases mpg and makes cleaner emissions"And the other part says: "Deleting the EGR system helps keep the combustion temps down, increases mpg and makes cleaner emissions"And some say "EGR delete is worth 0 hp" and some say it gives a few HP.If part one is correct; then what is the point of deleting it? ..other than to clean up the engine bay...obviously.Deleting the EGR costs your MPG, it doesnt GIVE you any HP, and you actually INCREASE cylinder temps.The #1 reason to delete the EGR is to make the engine bay pretty.I am however pretty sure that some of you are confusing the thermactor air pump system and the EGR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 ^? explain please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64bit_Tuning Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 ^? explain please?The EGR valve and Thermactor air pump are completely different systems. they arent even connected to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
