Brian Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 So I was talking about replacing the terminal connections for the positive and negative sides for the battery but realized the best plan would be to replace the entire cable because most I've found have the new terminals connections attached to them. My question is, where does the cables connect to on the other end (opposite side of the battery connection). And how long is the entire cable? I hope this makes sense. If not ill try to rephrase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 i think the + cable splits from fuse box and starter?? - cable grounds to the block then chasis? google that but i'm pretty sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 ^i'm gonna agree with that. My power cable splits, one side goes to the starter, the other goes to the fusebox, and i'm gonna go with tony on the negative cable thought i'm not entirely sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 I wonder if I can buy the new entire cables from say RockAuto. I'll have to look. I need new covers as well. Thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 here yah go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Even better. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-Oh Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 You could just buy a length of black and a length of red wire and cut to size. Do some soldering and shrink wrap, good to roll! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 That's a good idea, Steve-Oh. Really it's just for cosmetics because what I have now, IMO, look terrible. I am going to look for new covers since mine are broken. Thanks everyone for the info. Most likely I'll take care of this when I take the engine out for paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 That's a good idea, Steve-Oh. Really it's just for cosmetics because what I have now, IMO, look terrible. I am going to look for new covers since mine are broken. Thanks everyone for the info. Most likely I'll take care of this when I take the engine out for paint.take the engine out for paint. dam dude you pullin an opal on homie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 take the engine out for paint. dam dude you pullin an opal on homie?Haha, that's the plan yeah. Smoothed engine bay and repaint the entire car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revhead347 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 I actually looked into getting stock replacement cables one time. Ford has discontinued them, but some of the dealers still have them..... FOR $700. The best way to do it is to buy those already cut to length cables at the parts store. That way you don't have a ghetto rigged cable end on them. But a negative cable with at least one side ground on it, and resolder it to the ground that comes off the core support. Run the main length of cable to the block. But a short red cable to go to the stud on the fuse box, and then run a starter cable down from that stud to the starter.Kurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 I actually looked into getting stock replacement cables one time. Ford has discontinued them, but some of the dealers still have them..... FOR $700. The best way to do it is to buy those already cut to length cables at the parts store. That way you don't have a ghetto rigged cable end on them. But a negative cable with at least one side ground on it, and resolder it to the ground that comes off the core support. Run the main length of cable to the block. But a short red cable to go to the stud on the fuse box, and then run a starter cable down from that stud to the starter.KurtJesus, $700? Thanks for that info. I might end up just reusing the cabling I have now whenever I pull the motor and just remove the current end pieces (connectors) and just clamp new ones on. It's really just the terminal connectors I don't like but this is all good information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revhead347 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Yeah, the parts man at the dealer was like "Hey, let me see if I can work on that price," and I was like "if by work on it you mean get it under $100, then ok, otherwise don't bother." I find it's easier to just change the whole cable. If you get a different end on it then you end up having something that's either bolt clamped, or screwed on. Either way it doesn't look right. There are whole generic cables at the parts store for about $8 to $12 each.Kurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Yeah, the parts man at the dealer was like "Hey, let me see if I can work on that price," and I was like "if by work on it you mean get it under $100, then ok, otherwise don't bother." I find it's easier to just change the whole cable. If you get a different end on it then you end up having something that's either bolt clamped, or screwed on. Either way it doesn't look right. There are whole generic cables at the parts store for about $8 to $12 each.KurtHaha, I'm sure I would have had some choice words myself. That's a good idea. I'll just have to deal with what I have until the motor comes out then I'll be able to address the cabling easier. Although I do have to replace the starter here soon, I'll see how adventurous I am when that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revhead347 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Buy a Denso gear reduction starter and never buy another starter again.Kurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Buy a Denso gear reduction starter and never buy another starter again.KurtDo you by chance have a URL to the product? I was looking at the PA Performance mini start from LMR but I'm open to other suggestions like the one you listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revhead347 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) I switched to one of these in 2000 because my longtubes were heat soaking the starter. It has amazing cranking power. It never gets heat soaked either. It's more money than a rebuilt starter, but it's worth every penny, especially if you have higher compression, or longtubes. There are a few different companies that sell them under other names. Powermaster has a version of this starter also. Denso is the original maker of the starter, and all the brands are just labeling the original Denso. I found this link with a google search. Some of the mini starters out there are just a smaller motor on a straight shaft. Make sure you find a starter that is a GEAR REDUCTION. There are also some Chinese companies making crap gear reductions for around $100. Steer clear of those as well; you want a Denso product. It's always a good idea to call and make sure you are getting the right part number for your application.http://lite.racingjunk.com/Starters/725285/FORD-SUPER-TORQUE-DENSO-STYLE-STARTERS.htmlKurt Edited April 4, 2013 by revhead347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revhead347 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Oh, and I tried everything to get my stock style starter to crank when it was hot. I wrapped the headers, and I had an insulation blanket on the starter. I tried running 2 gauge battery cables too. This is the only thing I found that fixed the problem.Kurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...