Forcefedhatch Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Ok I'm looking to get more lift from this stock cam, I want a set of 1.7 rr's where do I start!!, WTf is pedestal vs stud 7/16's vs 3/8's.. I literally just want to know what will bolt right on and be done with it! Lol.. Anyone have a definite answer.. I've built so many imports.. This was never an issue!! I don't even care if it's a cheapie set as long as I can dial in the lash and if I have to get new pushrods then so be it.. But Riis us honestly a topic I am in no relation to! Lol.. So I really want a set of cobra 1.72's but they are retarded expensive..and I know they are cranes but wtf is the part number.. And I know if I go complete aftermarket ill have to swap VC's I'm cool with that too!! Lol.. Just a simple hey this us what you need go buy it is what I'm lookin for lol.. Then maybe a lol emphasis on what the difference and relation of those differences are..This should be a 101 I gave mastered, but I'll be honest my brain is blocking this one out!!Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnyxCobra Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Stock rockers are pedestal and the Cobra rockers are 1.7. the difference is basically with the pedestal a bolt goes down through the rocker to hold it. for a stud mount rocker they go on over a stud and then a nut holds them in place. and yeah it would be a good idea to check your pushrod length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forcefedhatch Posted April 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Ok cool.. Or I can get an E cam for 50.00$ lolSent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forcefedhatch Posted April 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 I'm just not looking to swap head parts, the heads are new, if I pull them for a cam change, I will port and polish them.. But I'm afraid of an E cam messing with low dollars tuning.. That's why I think 1.7's are the best bet for my .500" lift equation.. And less down time.. My main goal is to cheap as hell make this thing an Audi s4 killer.. Lol so which 1.7's are a direct bolt on and what type??Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schiffy Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 You used to be able to find procomp 1.7's on eBay for $100.Sent from my secretary!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnyxCobra Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 assuming you have stock heads then any pedestal mount rocker for your car will bolt up. What other mods do you have? The money may be better spent somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy95GT Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 1.7 rr with a stock cam isn't going to get you what u want im afraid... Jeremy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forcefedhatch Posted April 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Car has new gt40's, explorer intake, cai,75mm throttle body, 24# injectors and maf, full exhaust from headers back, shift kit, fresh 3.73's, 100 shot..Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnyxCobra Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 you're not even going to notice the rockers dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forcefedhatch Posted April 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Yeah I was just figuring that.. So.... I just ordered a 4 bank chip from American muscle, with the nitrous tune since I'm shooting a 100 anyway.. Plus I've for an amazing tuner local if I don't like it.. I'm just trying to build a complete buy it and bolt it on, respectable quick car..( with a Lil squeeze).. So I feel that's the best way to benefit from all of my mods.. Plus since this car is a rust bucket, when it shits the bucket, everything will swap to the other car as plug and play and be ready!!Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64bit_Tuning Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 I just ordered a 4 bank chip from American muscle, with the nitrous tune since I'm shooting a 100 anyway.. That was a tremendous waste of money...You know that I sell chips, right?GT-40 heads use pedestal mount rockers.1.7 Cobra rockers are cheap and plentiful.You dont need to pull your heads to swap the cam.You should PM me before going any further on your car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forcefedhatch Posted April 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 I tune a lot of my own stuff, just don't have sct software, and wanted to try off the shelf stuff, I just sold my mega squirt I thought of using it on this car, but I agreed on bolt ins and OTS items.. But what you charge for a chip/tune.??.. I had no idea that you did.. Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64bit_Tuning Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Chip with unlimited tuning is $195. You just cover shipping to and from. As for the rest of your build, you would be wise to pm me before moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forcefedhatch Posted April 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Not bad.. Yeah the build is done, there's not any more to do really.. If I crack a motor I port and polish everything regardless.. Just have a bet going that I can use off the shelf parts on a 600$ car and stomp my brothers Lil s4's ass at the strip.. For now I just pulled 2* base but I'm going to bump it back up, and I only run 93 oct in all my cars.. I'm already running a step colder copper cores do if anything melts the plug strap is more prone before a hyper piston.. Just have a side bet going on this whole bolt on ordeal..Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forcefedhatch Posted April 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 What do you have in mind as far as a junkyard type build to bump it up more?? I have 3 of these cars, gotta rip one of my street legal ones apart.. Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64bit_Tuning Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Your car is going to be a slug at the strip. You aren't even close to going in the right direction.This is painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forcefedhatch Posted April 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Elaborate..??Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forcefedhatch Posted April 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 I know you said to PM, but something such as basic bolt ons or "BPU'S" should be common and open knowledge.. As a community stand point.. Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forcefedhatch Posted April 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Ok well to sum it up, I appreciate the input, I sincerely do.. And I appreciate the concern.. But from now on before you past judgement and try to make a potential sale, keep your cynical comments to yourself.. That was not needed, and uncalled for, I simply asked you to elaborate for me why soviet could see your credibility since I have no references of your abilities.. But your attitude and mockery of my or anyone's selections will persuade anyone away from you professionally.. Once again thanks, but keep your bullshit comments like" this is painful" to yourself.. I think ill stick with bama and my local tuner just based on your people skills..Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64bit_Tuning Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Have fun with your 13's on nitrous. i wasnt trying to pass judgement, but you are just plain old doing things wrong, You shouldn't even attempt to port your own heads. Especially since they are iron. A GT-40 headed build with the right cam and a real tune is an easy 12 second car. You aren't going to make it there if you keep up this self righteous bullshit. I have been where you are. I have made the mistakes. I have been fed up with my cars lack of performance. I know my people skills suck. But I really don't care. I am trying to do you a favor by stopping you from doing what I have already done. The reason I wanted you to PM me is because i didn't want to fill this thread with useless bullshit!- - - Updated - - -And honestly, I dont care if you don't buy a chip from me. I'm not about to starve if I don't sell one. It's just one more thing that I am trying to do for the community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom351R Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Mail order tunes are the biggest waste of money. You will see no significant gain from it. They are so generic and tuned so much of the "safe"side b/c of liability issues. Put your money into something that will actually give you an increase in power, doing a mail order chip and 1.7 rockers is not going to get you there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forcefedhatch Posted April 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 I understand what your saying,both of you.. And yes Mk your people skills suck.. But had you said it Joe you just explained it I can absolutely agree, I know mail order tunes suck, I was purchasing the sct chip, the tunes were just there.. Now what chipset do you use, and ill pm you and I would love the input, but without the judgement.. I want a working combo period!!.. I love constructive criticism but not derogatory..Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forcefedhatch Posted April 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 And I'll man up and apologize if I stepped out of line.. But I won't let someone cross to my side either..Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom351R Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 What is it exactly that you are trying to accomplish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forcefedhatch Posted April 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Mid to low 13's NA mid to low 12's spray.. Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forcefedhatch Posted April 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Ok I'm going to cancel my chip, what do you guys think the next step should be then?? Tune obviously but what other physical kids should I be looking for to boost this turd up..Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom351R Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Just do a H/C/I set up if you want low 13's and 12's on spray. Get it tuned ( the right way ). With some good tires and a H/C/I set up low 13's are very doable and no prob with 12's on spray. You could do a put together kit like the Trickflow Top end kit or piece together something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) Fwiw, I just finished piercing together my HCI. TrickFlow 17os with a VJ, comp cams springs, Anderson ford Motorsport n412, edelbrock rpm 2, long tubes, xpipe and fuel mods and I'm knocking at the door of 300. Hit 292/320 with two burnt out plug wires and only taking the Car up to 4500. Took her to the track and I've easily got the mph for low 13s (107).If I could completely redo my set up, I'd do a custom cam and AFR 185s Edited May 1, 2013 by Det_Riot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schiffy Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Fwiw, I just finished piercing together my HCI. TrickFlow 17os with a VJ, comp cams springs, Anderson ford Motorsport n412, edelbrock rpm 2, long tubes, xpipe and fuel mods and I'm knocking at the door of 300. Hit 292/320 with two burnt out plug wires and only taking the Car up to 4500. Took her to the track and I've easily got the mph for low 13s (107)Now to work on that driver mod, right? lolSent from my secretary!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Now to work on that driver mod, right? lolSent from my secretary!!!Right! Too bad I can't buy that out of a summit catalogue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom351R Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 107 is good for mid 12's. I trapped 108 and ran a 12.5 on my old set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forcefedhatch Posted May 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Nice!Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64bit_Tuning Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 My cobra was in the 13's with 3.08s and a stock engine. Full weight too. A cam swap, tune and gears would put a good driver into the 12's. Spray could see low 12's and possible 11's with weight reduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 ^ that's super motivating considering that I have 3.08s still! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
