Tony Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 theres a seam about 1/8" deep along the roof of every 82-93 s10. i've tried filling it in the past only to have it start to crack later. sucks when ya have perfect paint then this happens. the seam:anyone know of a filler that will sit in there and stay, lol? that wont crack later down the road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iRoush Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 best seam filler is a nice weld :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 best seam filler is a nice weld :yes:haha, very true. if all else fails thats what i'll have to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttocs Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 As he said you could just do a bunch of tach-welds to build it up a bit and then grind it down. When smoothing the spoiler/license plate frame recently I was surprised how nice the panel bonding adhesive worked to fill the small gap between the spoiler/deck lid on the bottem outside edges. Taped the area around the seem, filled it, dabbed it smooth with my finger and then pulled the tape off. I have also been using rage to smooth out some gaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiplash473 Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Ill get the name of the caulk we use at work. I'm not sure it won't crack but its a little more flexible than filler. Sent from bored/stroked iPhone 4S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 As he said you could just do a bunch of tach-welds to build it up a bit and then grind it down. When smoothing the spoiler/license plate frame recently I was surprised how nice the panel bonding adhesive worked to fill the small gap between the spoiler/deck lid on the bottem outside edges. Taped the area around the seem, filled it, dabbed it smooth with my finger and then pulled the tape off. I have also been using rage to smooth out some gaps.did you use that panel bonding adhesive from SEM i posted on the other forum scott? just wondering how good that stuff works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttocs Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 I had already ordered the 3m stuff but I am willing to bet its the same crap with a different label. The gun and the bottles/tips looked identical. It was super easy to use and I have not tested it by pulling the stuff off, pretty sure it will be sticking for some time. As I said above I filled the seem between the spoiler/lid on the bottom edges. With the dark adhesive on dark paint, after just a finger-dab to smooth it out I have no intention of sanding or anything. Doesn't look like it shrank at all... You could probably use the adhesive on your grill as well. I think I got the gun for $26 but if its cheaper I would be willing to ship it out as long as you ship it back when your done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01yellercobra Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Find someone that can do lead filler. Misspelling brought to you by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttocs Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 You need to have a pretty thick panel to do lead to keep it from flexing. Pretty sure they don't do it much anymore because the modern cars have been too thin for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeperstang1994 Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 did you use that panel bonding adhesive from SEM i posted on the other forum scott? just wondering how good that stuff works out.we use this black panel bond in the body shop at work. this stuff is amazing. be careful though it dries solid in about 90 seconds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttocs Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 we use this black panel bond in the body shop at work. this stuff is amazing. be careful though it dries solid in about 90 seconds!Do you squirt it through the tip that has all the baffles that mixes it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeperstang1994 Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Do you squirt it through the tip that has all the baffles that mixes it?yeah the tip mixes the two different adhesives together and causes some sort of chemical reaction that i dont understand. we have special "caulk" guns that press evenly on both sides of the tube at once. i wouldnt want to mix it by hand because its really sticky and dries super quick. plus you need alot of tips cause once it dries... that tip is junk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttocs Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 I had to buy the same calk gun. Looks like is about a 60/40 mix on the two chemicals to get the correct mix for the reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 we use this black panel bond in the body shop at work. this stuff is amazing. be careful though it dries solid in about 90 seconds!good stuff huh? i've been told i could actually use it to shave handles rather then tack weld the filler plates...just use that panel adhesive and apply pressure. better then a weld. what i was told anyway. wonder how true?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttocs Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 better then weld? idunno about all that but it is made to bond door panels and quarter panels to cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeperstang1994 Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 the Black panel bond is just as good as welding IMO i have stuck all sorts of stuff together with that. once its dried its on. plus its sandable so that would be a plus. i use it in he shop as my "whoops" ive glued alot of things with it. alot of times it seems stronger! ask [MENTION=10]WildWillyWalker[/MENTION] how i like to break stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildWillyWalker Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 the Black panel bond is just as good as welding IMO i have stuck all sorts of stuff together with that. once its dried its on. plus its sandable so that would be a plus. i use it in he shop as my "whoops" ive glued alot of things with it. alot of times it seems stronger! ask @WildWillyWalker how i like to break stuff...I just know WE like to break mirrors LOL! Always have spare plastic weld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-Oh Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 better then weld? idunno about all that but it is made to bond door panels and quarter panels to cars.We use that bonding glue all the time instead of weld. Shit works good!Sent from Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 the Black panel bond is just as good as welding IMO i have stuck all sorts of stuff together with that. once its dried its on. plus its sandable so that would be a plus. i use it in he shop as my "whoops" ive glued alot of things with it. alot of times it seems stronger! ask @WildWillyWalker how i like to break stuff...are we talking about the same stuff? this is the stuff i was told about:if not can i get the name or a link to the stuff you're talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttocs Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 I am pretty sure its the exact same stuff as what I got. Same bottle, same tip, same mixing tips, different stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 the 3m stuff is prolly easier to get...no? i've never seen anything from SEM at any auto parts store. where did you get the 3m stuff scott? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttocs Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 you will need the gun as well. Iooked at all the auto parts stores in my town for it and most had no idea what PBA was. The best pep boys came up with was a small model-glue sized bottle of plastic trim adhestive.... egay my good mang egay.- - - Updated - - -Here is the same add I bought. They shipped it from ohio I think it was, got it 2 days after I ordered it so you might be able to pick it up, dunno. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&vxp=mtr&item=251340747154 Willing to bet the SEM stuff is the same honestly and its cheaper http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.Xsem+panel+bonding+adhesive&_nkw=sem+panel+bonding+adhesive&_sacat=0&_from=R40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 so i'll have to order this stuff then. plus i have to order a gun plus tips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiplash473 Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 You could give this a shot, finally got a pic of it at work today. It'll stay a little more flexible than panel adhesive so maybe it's something to look into. Sent from bored/stroked iPhone 4S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttocs Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 on mine and the sem yes you need the gun, glue and the tips. Tips are a one time use which is why I got the one I did. I had planned on doing 3 different pieces on different days so I needed extra tips. In the end I thought I used a fairly good amount on the license plate frame, 3rd tail light and spoiler but was surprised that I think I am only about half way done with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-Oh Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 We got a little off track here but for the record this is what we use for metal bonding: http://www.loctite.com.au/3423_AUS_HTML.htm?BU=industrial&parentredDotUID=productfinder&redDotUID=10000009S5L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeperstang1994 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 We use the 3m that Ttocs has in that picture. Way better! Actually glued an intake back together last night... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 We use the 3m that Ttocs has in that picture. Way better! Actually glued an intake back together last night...ok cool. i may try to use that to shave maybe a tailgate handle first to see how it works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttocs Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Like I said above I am not sure what you are going to pay for the gun but if its cheaper I will ship you mine as long as you ship it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
