Infidel4life11 Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 So I have a stock 96 mystic with low miles. This is my 6th mustang, 3rd SVT (2Cobras and 1 GT500). My problem is I would like to build this one and do it right the 1st time and my issue is I don't know which route to take. No racing will be involved other than some 1/4 mile testing. Car will be driven on the weekends, attend local shows and just be for me and the wife to enjoy. I'll give you a few ideas and tell me what you think.Mods that are going to happen:Cobra R HoodLowering Springs18x9/10 Chrome FR500sSaleen S281 wing03-04 SeatsOption 1:Leave the Motor aloneCAILong TubesO/R XSpin techs4:10sIMRC deletesTuneOption 2Option 1 W/ Vortech V3 or single turboOption 35.3 Stroker 03-04 heads01 IntakeCAILong TubesO/R XSpin techsT56 swap4:10sIMRC deletesTuneOption 4Option 3 W/ Vortech V3 or Single turboI would be content with 400rwhp. I told myself that I wouldn't put another Vortech on a mustang but after looking into the V3 and seeing the prices on the KB 2.1, I figured the V3 was a good option. I'd like a single turbo over the V3. Then on the same hand the 5.3 all motor makes me all kinds of giddy. My only worry with this set-up is the small stuff from changing the heads and intake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schiffy Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Option 3. Go big or go home. lol... Course it all depends on how deep your willin to dip Ito your pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Daddy Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 use a real blower and go with a procharger. With that said. why dont you decide what you will use the car for, then from there decide how often you will use it, what you will run the car on ect. From there now look at your options. Anyone can list off 5 ways to make 400hp but you need to look to see what you want, how you will use it and what makes sense. good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel4life11 Posted September 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 use a real blower and go with a procharger. With that said. why dont you decide what you will use the car for, then from there decide how often you will use it, what you will run the car on ect. From there now look at your options. Anyone can list off 5 ways to make 400hp but you need to look to see what you want, how you will use it and what makes sense. good luck"Car will be driven on the weekends, attend local shows and just be for me and the wife to enjoy."- - - Updated - - -Option 3. Go big or go home. lol... Course it all depends on how deep your willin to dip Ito your pockets.Man I like the idea of that boss block 5.3 stroker gets me all kinds of giddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 If you're only looking for 400hp, why do the effort of the stroker. From what it looks like to me is you just want a nice cruiser with some pep. If that's the case, keep the motor stock, throw some boost at it via supercharger, and have a ball. Doing a stroker and all that seems like way too much effort for 400hp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 If you're only looking for 400hp, why do the effort of the stroker. From what it looks like to me is you just want a nice cruiser with some pep. If that's the case, keep the motor stock, throw some boost at it via supercharger, and have a ball. Doing a stroker and all that seems like way too much effort for 400hpGuess that's option 2 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel4life11 Posted September 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Guess that's option 2 lolLOL thanks for the input brother. I've been thinking the same just keeping it simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 If its a weekend traveling to car shows cruiser, I wouldn't even bother building it. Maybe detail the hell out of it and clean up the engine bay, but keep it stock and reliable at that point then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 LOL thanks for the input brother. I've been thinking the same just keeping it simple.If yiu end up going that route too, I'd just throw a supercharger on it as its less to mess around than the piping of a turbo, then you have to change your whole exhaust set up too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnyxCobra Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 there needs to be an option for boost + T56, that's my choice. then do gears if you need a little more kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnyxCobra Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st33da Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 IMRC Deletes, P1SC with supporting fuel mods, Tune = 400rwhp all day long. I wouldn't even bother tearing into the engine unless you have the need for 450+ which is the limit on our stock rods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1997cobra Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 If you go option 1, keep the IMRCs. They are not there to hurt you. They give you torque down low, and sacrifice like 2 hp up top. A good oil separator on the pcv and an egr delete will solve all issues with them. Hell, I dont have any of that. I just make sure they open at least 1 time every time I drive it. Gives them 0 chance of sticking.why not just c head swap, centri blower, and a tune? no need for a 5.3l at 400 hp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel4life11 Posted September 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 400 Isn't the goal I just would be content with it. I Agree that a H/C/I swap or a blower would get me there just fine and I'm cool with that which is why I'm asking you guys to see if I'm better off keeping it simple. I'm not going to lie the H/C/I or the 5.3 scares me a little bit due to stepping away from whats factory. The wife really wants a 6speed so an ATI/Vortech and the T56 swap maybe in order.Thanks for all the input please keep it coming.- - - Updated - - -If you go option 1, keep the IMRCs. They are not there to hurt you. They give you torque down low, and sacrifice like 2 hp up top. A good oil separator on the pcv and an egr delete will solve all issues with them. Hell, I dont have any of that. I just make sure they open at least 1 time every time I drive it. Gives them 0 chance of sticking.why not just c head swap, centri blower, and a tune? no need for a 5.3l at 400 hpWhich oil separator, egr delete do you recommend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 400 Isn't the goal I just would be content with it. I Agree that a H/C/I swap or a blower would get me there just fine and I'm cool with that which is why I'm asking you guys to see if I'm better off keeping it simple. I'm not going to lie the H/C/I or the 5.3 scares me a little bit due to stepping away from whats factory. The wife really wants a 6speed so an ATI/Vortech and the T56 swap maybe in order.Thanks for all the input please keep it coming.- - - Updated - - -Which oil separator, egr delete do you recommend? [MENTION=341]1997cobra[/MENTION] or [MENTION=262]NVRL8TE[/MENTION] can tell you all you'd ever need to know about t56 swaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Psychorugby Posted September 4, 2013 Moderators Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 @1997cobra or @NVRL8TE can tell you all you'd ever need to know about t56 swapsI guess I know who to bother when I get around to doing mine! I'll be doing a double trans swap... T56 to the 95 and T5 to the 66. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVRL8TE Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 Ask away. I know it all about T5 swaps, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel4life11 Posted September 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 Ask away. I know it all about T5 swaps, too.BTW your Mystic is amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVRL8TE Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 BTW your Mystic is amazing!Well, thanks!If you have any questions, let me know. You can even call me if that's easier for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01yellercobra Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 (edited) Remember that the 5.3 is more then just a stroker. You'll need to either resleeve your block or step up to the Boss block. I have a 5.3 in my car. It's been pretty reliable for the last couple of years. I know I'm well beyond the 400 you're taking about. If you're just looking for a cruiser do some bolt ons and just enjoy the car. Leave the blowers to those of us that seem to enjoy bitching about belt issues. If you do end up going with a stroker/blower combo I'd rethink the gears. You don't need steep gears when you have torque. I have 3.90's and sometimes I wish I had just gone with 3.55's.Misspelling brought to you by Tapatalk Edited September 4, 2013 by 01yellercobra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laddanator Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 Ask away. I know it all about T5 swaps, too.Don't mean to steal the show. You're saying a T5 will fit 96-98 Cobra and you have done this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 Don't mean to steal the show. You're saying a T5 will fit 96-98 Cobra and you have done this?No he isn't saying that. "I'll be doing a double trans swap... T56 to the 95 and T5 to the 66." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVRL8TE Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 No, not at all. A T5 will not work on a modular. At all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laddanator Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 No, not at all. A T5 will not work on a modular. At all.I knew that but its some smart folks out there doing inventive things, you just never know. I talked to Wally over at Promotion Transmission and he said you lose a little HP with a T56 due to the ratio from 5th to 6th. It's hard to beat a well build T5 or T45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1997cobra Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 Which oil separator, egr delete do you recommend?I cant personally recommend one because I dont have one yet. I've seen some home brew setups that didnt look bad, steeda offers a kit that is close to the homebrew stuff, moroso has them also. Just need to do some simple plumbing. EGR delete is basically plugging the manifold tube and putting a block off plate on the intake manifold. Then turning it off in the tune @1997cobra or @NVRL8TE can tell you all you'd ever need to know about t56 swapsI guess I know who to bother when I get around to doing mine! I'll be doing a double trans swap... T56 to the 95 and T5 to the 66.Ask away. I know it all about T5 swaps, too.Fire away, I'll tell you everything I know. Check my build thread also, tons of info in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01yellercobra Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 This is the seperator I'm looking at. Pricey, but all the GT500 owners love it.http://www.shop.bobsautosports.com/Oil-Separators_c4.htmMisspelling brought to you by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVRL8TE Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 T56. FTW. Trust me. And go big with the gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1997cobra Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 This is the seperator I'm looking at. Pricey, but all the GT500 owners love it.http://www.shop.bobsautosports.com/Oil-Separators_c4.htmMisspelling brought to you by Tapatalklooks like a quality piece!T56. FTW. Trust me. And go big with the gears.I should add that [MENTION=262]NVRL8TE[/MENTION] and I swapped a t56 into his car in less than a day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel4life11 Posted September 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Psychorugby Posted September 5, 2013 Moderators Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 T56. FTW. Trust me. And go big with the gears.I bought mine about 15 years ago... any way to determine the gears without taking it apart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk97Cobra Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 So I have a stock 96 mystic with low miles. This is my 6th mustang, 3rd SVT(2Cobras and 1 GT500). My problem is I would like to build this one and do itright the 1st time and my issue is I don't know which route to take. No racingwill be involved other than some 1/4 mile testing. Car will be driven on theweekends, attend local shows and just be for me and the wife to enjoy. I'll giveyou a few ideas and tell me what you think.Mods that are going tohappen:Cobra R HoodLowering Springs18x9/10 Chrome FR500sSaleenS281 wing03-04 SeatsOption 1:Leave the MotoraloneCAILong TubesO/R XSpin techs4:10sIMRCdeletesTuneOption 2Option 1 W/ Vortech V3 or singleturboOption 35.3 Stroker03-04 heads01 IntakeCAILongTubesO/R XSpin techsT56 swap4:10sIMRCdeletesTuneOption 4Option 3 W/ Vortech V3 or SingleturboI would be content with 400rwhp. I told myself that I wouldn't putanother Vortech on a mustang but after looking into the V3 and seeing the priceson the KB 2.1, I figured the V3 was a good option. I'd like a single turbo overthe V3. Then on the same hand the 5.3 all motor makes me all kinds of giddy. Myonly worry with this set-up is the small stuff from changing the heads andintake.4.30 gears atleast man. Dont fear the gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
