itsblown93 Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 So i thought my axels were bent do to people telling me that wheels were wobbling as I am driving. So last night I changed out my axels and they are still wobbling. Does anyone have an idea what it could be? It's a 2004 mustang gt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 Axle tubes could be tweaked? Wheels could be out of round. Is it vibrating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 if its not the axle shafts i'd say its the wheel. have someone spin the wheel on one side while you look at the hub or rotor. thats how i knew mine was bent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsblown93 Posted July 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 It's not the wheels. I put my welds wheels on it also on it to make sure it wasn't the wheels so I tested two different wheels. Yea you can feel vibration as well as the break squeaking due to then wobbling so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 I wonder if your main caps loosened up somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsblown93 Posted July 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 I hope not. I've been needing to build the rear end but don't want to if it's the housing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 :/ that's the only other thing I could think of that could be throwing a wobbly axle. Is it both sides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsblown93 Posted July 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 Yep. Sure is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 It's gotta be something with the diff or housing. Probably would be worth it to buy some more fluid so you can pop the cover and investigate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsblown93 Posted July 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 Yeah I'll have to do that. Ever since I've bought this car it's been a pins in the ass I swear. If it's not one thing it's another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeperstang1994 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 for what its worth. I have never once seen main cap bolts "loosen" up on their own accord. unless someone was in there changing gears and did it wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SublimeRT Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Hmmm, been thinking about this for a bit and I'm still stumped but I will throw out some ideas. First of all, have you verified that the wheels are wobbling or just going by what someone thought they saw? Condition of the axle bearings? Something between the rotor hat and axle face not allowing it to fully seat? Condition/thickness of the rotor hat itself? Condition of the lug studs? Stretched or worn to where the wheel doesn't tighten down fully/evenly? Spider gears in the diff chewed up and allowing the splines of the axle to have play in them? Condition of the pin in the diff? Allowing excess play in and out with the axles? Condition of the c-clips themselves? Like has been said also, condition of the main caps and fasteners? Did you/do you ever feel a pulsation in the brake pedal? Seems like if an axle was bent or something with the rotor or rotor to axle mounting that the wobble would push the brake pads back and you'd feel it in the pedal.Some of this stuff might sound "duh" or elementary but when chasing a problem like that sometimes it really helps to take a step back and analyze things and really go over them with a fine tooth comb. You might even have to whip out the dial indicator and start measuring run out and play in things. This is all assuming that the wheels and tires have been verified to not be the problem and also that an axle tube is not tweaked/twisted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 all of the above from @SublimeRT I went through the same thing recently and it was rust build up on the face of the axle shaft, could be rust build up on the inside of your rotor hat as well. just some things to check out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsblown93 Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Ok thanks guys. I'll pull everything off after work and check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsblown93 Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Here's a video of what Is happeninhttp://youtu.be/mfQqtysP9aw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 so weird that its on both wheels. do you have hubcentric rings on the wheels? pull the wheels and check to see if the rotors run true. you'll have to use the lug nuts and run em up to the rotor and tighten em down a little. if they wobble, then pull those and visually inspect the axle faces and the rotors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GearGambler Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 so weird that its on both wheels. do you have hubcentric rings on the wheels? pull the wheels and check to see if the rotors run true. you'll have to use the lug nuts and run em up to the rotor and tighten em down a little. if they wobble, then pull those and visually inspect the axle faces and the rotors. I was going to ask if there were any spacers in use as well! you beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsblown93 Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Nope no spacers. Someone said check the rotors but if they were warped I don't think it would effect them this much at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Nope no spacers. Someone said check the rotors but if they were warped I don't think it would effect them this much at all.you actually wont be checking for warped rotors. you're checking to see if the rotors are mounting to the axle flat. if you can spin it and they wobble too, then a) warped rotors or b) they arn't flush to the face of the axle. wouldn't hurt to try new rotors either way. or just one new rotor and see if it fixes the issue on either side.you said you put in new axles, so i would be hard pressed to see a bent axle on both sides. the only other way both axles would wobble at the same time is like @Det_Riot said, the caps came loose on the carrier. If an axle tube was bent, the axle would still spin true on its new axis, just with a lot of resistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsblown93 Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Very good point. I was also told to take the rotors off and out the wheels back on and do this again then I'd be able to tell if it's the rotors also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Very good point. I was also told to take the rotors off and out the wheels back on and do this again then I'd be able to tell if it's the rotors alsothere ya go. just be careful not to hit the brakes if you put it in gear to run it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeperstang1994 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 did you try to run it with out the rotors on yet????? you cold also run it with the wheel off to see if the rotor is wobbling. then take the rotor off and look at the axle flange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det_Riot Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Did you check out the list of shit yet @? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsblown93 Posted July 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Not yet I've had the car parked and haven't really had time. I drive it yesterday and you could feel the ass end wobble. I'll be working on it tomorrow after work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forcefedhatch Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Clutch packs and spider gears are shit... rebuild it..and replace the spider gears.. of.your doing that get a nice used explorer trac-loc.. use the 03-04 cobra carbon fiber fibers and steels, and that's the move up to the 31 spline territory.. top it off with a housing cover with main cap supports. 15ft/lb. Torque on cap supports.. good for a car that will pull the front wheels ;-).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 anything yet @ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsblown93 Posted July 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 yes I pulled off the wheel and rotor turns out someone put a washer in between rotor and axle flange. now it looks to be fine. I sent @Det_Riot a video and he could tell a huge difference.. Ill post the video on here as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Awesome glad to hear you found that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsblown93 Posted July 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 http://youtu.be/Vpz0P_zkFk8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SublimeRT Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Awesome. Much better. I'm glad it was an easy fix. So was there one on each side since both wheels were wobbling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forcefedhatch Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 I'd still build the rear end ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsblown93 Posted July 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 No the passenger side wheel is actually Bent. The driver side was not bent however. That's why I was really worried about that side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Much much better!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
